what we lack in america today is courage. for more on this take a look at my "washington post" column. you'll find it on cnn.com/fareed. let's get started. >>> so, let's get right to it. a conversation about the real economic problems this country faces. on my right and on the right, glen hubbard, the former chief economic adviser of the romney campaign and dean of the business school. on my left, peter orszag, obama former budget director and sort of in the middle, zanny minton beddoes and chrystia freeland, be editor of routers digital. i promised we were going to get past the cliff. but i have to ask a few questions about it. just this. you don't think it's that big of a deal if we go over the cliff. >> i don't think it's that big of a deal if we get to january 3rd or january 4th and we don't have an agreement because we'll have one very soon after. if we did nothing for months, it would be disastrous. not only the combination of tax increases and spending cuts push the economy into a recession, the debt ceiling would be r